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wallet intact. >> i did, i guarded. >> paul: that's it for this week's edition of the journal editorial report. thanks to my panel for watching. i'm paul gigot. we'll see you right here next week. . >> jon: on fox news watch. >> we've got to build an economy that works for everybody. >> jon: just as president obama ends his campaign for jobs tour in the south, news of a tyrant's death makes headlines and some in the media give cued does to the white house for the dictator's demise, coming in a week when bad news about mr. obama at an all-time high. can that be true? >> this is what i have to say. >> another g.o.p. showdown, another g.o.p. shout fest. are the media using these events to help voters decide or showcase a disjointed party? >> it's not temporary to the guy whose store is held up and
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a gun pointed at his head. >> jon: joe biden goes too tar with a rant. and liberal mouth piece susan sarandon slanders the pope. did the media take issue with either? another week of antics by the occupy wall street protesters. another week of unbridled biased support by the mainstream press. on the panel this week, writer and fox news contributor, judy miller. national review editor rich lawrie, jim pinkerton editor american conservative magazine and daily bees columnist kirsten powers. i'm jon scott, fox news watch is on right now. president obama on his three-day campaign for jobs bus tour this week, making stops in north carolina and virginia. trying to build public support
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for his 447 billion dollar jobs bill. the president criticized for the taxpayer money he's spending on the trips which look and sound an awful lot like campaign stops. >> it is clearly campaigning and i must say, again, i've never seen an uglier bus than the canadian one he's travelling around on a canadian bus touting american jobs. >> jon: that's john mccain who knows something about presidential campaigns and buses, but does he have a point? i mean, judy, are the media asking these questions? if republicans were taking these same trips, they would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, wouldn't they? >> look, this is always going to be an issue, it was an issue the last time it came up. it's going to continue to be an issue and it's an appropriate issue because the campaign has the gun and it affects absolutely everything that goes on. >> jon: just so happens that democrats would hope to win north carolina and virginia? >> well, again, i've got to
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tell you, every white house uses the tools, you know, the-- >> including canadian buses? >> well, that may be new. >> that's not really his fault though, the secret service buy the buses and they, you know, i don't think that it's fair to blame the president, it's not like he's overseeing the purchase of buses, right? >> perhaps not (laughter) >> interesting. >> other things to focus on. >> busy funding sales for investments. he didn't look at that either. >> an interesting study out of the pew research center this week and looks at media coverage for all of the candidates and the bottom line in this report is that the president, it says, is getting hammered, that the republican candidates are getting more favorable coverage than the president. here is a look. the president's positive coverage there on the screen. according to the data negative coverage of mr. obama
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outweighed positive 4-1 in the past five months. >> that's a classic case of, do you believe the study or your lying eyes. when you look how they did this, they're obviously problems, number one, they cost such a wide net and the media outlets there are examining, something like 12,000 so you lose the fact that there are certain prominent newspapers and broadcast networks that are much more important than the rest of those 11,995 media outlets and also-- >> so you think that plays into the president's portrayal of himself as an underdog in the media? >> well, i think the other thing he's doing, his poll numbers, the report said his poll numbers were down and that was evaluated as negative coverage and that's straight coverage so i think the study is from-- >> it's the same thing with the economy, if the economy was bad then it was negative coverage for him. so, i think it probably, probably overstated how negative it is, but, also, it's a reflection of reality a little bit.
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i mean, there are a lot of things going wrong and there are a lot of unhappiness with him. so, should be negative. >> well, the media research center pointed out they appear on television, did foxnews.com and cnn.com, but not the broadcasts. they're harder to monitor. >> jon: kind of an important point, but look. >> look, the study itself was modest in conclusions and headlines. the media couldn't wait to jump on it. cbs finds harsh coverage for obama and msnbc, the study shows obama as the victim, there's the magic word, victim of negative press and couldn't wait to use the study to throw back in the face of 30 years of criticism. too liberal. >> on friday, judy, the president steps out in front of the press corps and made the statement that the iraq war is over and we'll pull out by the end of the year and couches it in such a way it's
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his administration's idea and it's a great victory, is it? >> whereas in fact, it's a great defeat for him in terms of an objective that his soldiers, the leadership of his, the military had recommended, which was keeping between 15 and 35,000 troops in iraq. the fact of the matter is, as the ap reported over the weekend and the white house denied it, the prime minister of iraq said, no, we're not going to make it possible for you to stay in iraq, and the president had to make this decision. so, he was basically getting out ahead of what could have been a negative story for him. and spinning it, and the press should be catching him on that. >> jon: why make that announcement in the press room with the press there, and then not at least take questions, kirsten? >> you know, i'm-- >> this is after eight years of war. >> the media strategist in the white house, i don't know why they do so many things they do. when you go into the press room and announce something so consequence, you would expect
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they would be able to ask questions. >> jon: and then the death of moammar qaddafi, is that a opportunity for good press for the president? >> i think so. there's something key happening here, that's counter to the media narrative so the media can't quite pick up on it. it becomes evident in recent months, this administration is really good at killing people. it's not so good at diplomacy. the iraq thing, apparently is a diplomatic failure and couldn't work it out the peace process in the middle east is a shambles and reset with russia is a disaster, but it can kill people and if this guy had a texas accent and cowboy boots everyone would see that, but because he's a nice liberal, nobody sees that. >> jon: who won a nobel peace prize. >> who had the drones built and the democrats used to say it's wasteful gold plated technology and now it's one thing that's working. >> jon: interesting. if you like to keep up on media stories during the week,
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go 0 to our website and check the watch list session as well as our bias bash. up next, are the g.o.p. debates helping you decide? >> rick, again-- >> rick, the newspaper-- >> i'm speaking! >> another republican debate gets press this week with the same faces, the same questions, and the same media reaction. are these debates helping voters decide or have they become political theater side show shout fesses? >> i wish they had some notion what it was like to be on the other side of the gun. >> aen vp biden has a disturbing rant against the republican. did the media turn a deaf ear? next on news watch. getting to know. new slow kettle style soups from campbell's. extraordinary taste sensations crafted from premium ingredients. slow kettle. new from campbell's.
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>> this is an example of mixing apples and oranges. the state tax is an apple, and
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we are replacing the current tax code with oranges. and i'm going to be getting a bushel basket that has apples and oranges in it and pay taxes. and you lose all of your standing from my perspective because you hired illegals. >> i'm looking forward to finding your facts on that. >> i'll tell you what the facts are. >> rick, again-- >> and i'm speaking, i'm speaking. >> the newspaper. >> i'm speaking. >> jon: well, the republican candidates go at it go again in another prime time debate and trying to lock up the party's nomination and ganged up one another in a series of attacks more intense than personal in any in their previous appearances together. so is there a media consensus about the winner this time around, jim? >> just about the winner? i think they're contentious about the loser of the last debate. herman cain coming under genuine scrutiny on the statements about gay marriage, abortion, the 9-9-9 plan, there's a useful process here,
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discovering who the people are and what they know. >> are the debates helping voters to decide and it was up close and personal and look at the ratings. these are very powerful ratings for an event that most people thought would be a yawn. so, go at it, gentlemen and lady. >> and this is brilliant media strategy by rick perry and they kind of realized, seriously, seriously, realized he could not win a debate, but maybe he could win the post debate spin. so he went in there with a deliberate strategy to rattle mitt romney. he looked petty. by getting under mitt romney's skin and showing some life himself. i love that he's on the verge of a comeback and mitt romney lose it for the first time ever. >> there is, what you might call going on in the media,
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sort of suggests mainstream media want anybody, but mitt room any. is that theme still being pushedments i don't think it's the mainstream media, i think it's the republicans. >> the grass roots republicans, but it would-- it's reflected. >> and they're more aligned with him than anybody else, i think that the-- that the debates do serve a purpose and exactly what everyone has been talking aboutment you start to see people like a herman cain, everybody gets excited about have to start answering some fairly basic questions and not that difficult and realizing he's not quite ready for prime time and it's not surprising, the first time he's run for office, on the national stage they're big and i think they serve a purpose. >> and rick, they wrote for national review online, your. >> after watching the debate. the oprah-ization is almost
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complete and no one hardly notices, what does he mean. >> talking rick santorum talking about his young daughter having an operation and wished her well and going back to see her. that didn't bother me as much as it did jay. it didn't scream oprah-ization to me, it was more a normal kind of moment. >> there's that whole parade aspect of that the opening of that debate. i mean, you're right, let's be clear here, people are watching, i mean, and fox is part of it. fox has added two debates on friday, two more. nobody thought, as judy was saying, people would want to watch three or four, let alone 20 or whatever we'll end up with. people love it and if it's oprah, as jay says, that's all the more argument to keep doing it. >> success for 25 years. >> jon: and she's not syndicated anymore and the gap is out there. time for a break. if you see something that shows evidence of media bias, e-mail us alt fox
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news@foxnews.com. did the vice-president's mouth get the best of him again? >> the 911 call, woman being raped and-- >> vice-president biden, takes a disurick it left turn, wishing his opponents knew what it felt to be robbed or raped? and susan sarandon calls the pope a nazi, does the media care? how they're helping some wall street protesters get more attention. find out next on news watch. l that can help lower olesterol and who ordered the yummy cereal? yummy. [ woman ] lower cholesterol. [ man 2 ] yummy. i got that wrong didn't i? [ male announcer ] want great taste and whole gin oats that can help lower cholesterol? honey nut cheerios.
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>> when that 911 call, a woman raped and the cop shows up, it's thot temporary, it's not temporary to the guy whose
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store is held up and a gun pointed at his head, and the cop shows up and he's not killed. that's not temporary. and i wish they had a notion what it's like on the other side of a gun. and folks, it's not, it's not. >> jon: that's vice-president joe biden suggesting our country will see an increase in rapes and murders if the jobs bill, which would provide funds for state and local governments to hire teachers, firefighters and police officers, is not passed. and so, rich, the media reactions to that little-- >> well, that's compulsively watchable video, it's just so bizarre and can't believe he's actually seeing these sort of things. if the republican was saying them it would be broadcast and splashed on the front page. >> he said i wish our opponents knew what it felt like to be raped? >> it's bizarre, flat out bizarre, and any definition of civility, it's out of bounds
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and that the bill would have a great crime fighting effect is utterly unfactual and screams for rebuttal. >> jon: then there is susan sarandon who was talking about her movie "dead man walking", it was a 1995 anti-death penalty film and she said quote-- well, she sent the book to the pope, she said the book on which it was based. she said the last one, not this nazi, we have now. any media outrage now? >> no, i didn't see a lot of outrage. it's interesting she thought the last pope was good, but this pope is horrible an and they believe the exact same things. you know, i think that she often says sort of outrageous things and to a certain extent people roll their eyes and know that she's toward conservative things. >> jon: then there is the occupy wall street movement which is underway, another weak of protesters here in new york city, and other cities across the nation, and around the world.
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and another week of backing and support from the largely liberal press. jim, that movement didn't get much attention in the beginning, but sure is now. >> sure is now and i divide the coverage into two categories, forest and trees. if the forest is on the left and this is like they come in and wonderful and so on, you get cheerleaders of a weird kind like donny deutche, they need a kent state moment. when four college students were killed, a martyr thing and the trees, the protesters one by one by one and put that in starns of fox news or fred segal and interview people and ask what they think and are horrified by the results and put it in the paper and i think are changing the coverage in a negative way. >> jon: and dylan ratigan sent out an e-mail to one of the so-called leaders of the movement and here is what it said. hope you are all good.
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i'm taking the petition with 140,000 signatures, i presume after eight days to the usb drive to initiate a public conversation with senator durbin tomorrow mid day about outlawing private money ability to purchase government. and we're going to announce the formation of the get money out foundation and i intend to ask for his response to the spreading occupation movement. are there grievances you have that i can express to him? please advise. appropriate for a media person? >> as tim said, a forest and tree coverage or what i call liberal and conservative coverage and conservatives as the occupy wall street protesters hone their mental r message and don't like what they're hearing. and read that again and again and people who like this and agree with it are doing things like carrying water for the protesters. >> jon: kirsten. >> well, dylan ratigan is sort of an activist journalist,
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irony is as thick as the stench in lower manhattan. some is appropriate. fact that people that gathered to protest what they believe is corporate theft and greed are being victimized by greedy thieves among their midst. the ones that steal your apple iphones. many people told the "new york post" i had my map stolen, that was like $5500. i personally hoped she purchased it with her own baby-sitting money. maybe they insured they are computer with one of those big financial conglomerates. how the protestors can pay for their needs as they create mayhem using a $45,000 slush fund. most was donated online by via
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credit cards. so i guess it's patronize visa while you rant against goldman sachs. as least they have an office in the area. many the financial firms have not occupied the anymore. and that gives rise to the coolest irony, protestors wreaking economic damage are not hurting the mega banks and investment houses but the mom and pop operators that used to do a vibrant business selling things to americans that happen to make their living in the financial district. hufg ton post says we have been seized by customers that use the bathroom and ripping the sink off the wall. they talk to a food vendor who says he is down 85% and he has to go back home if the protests don't end by november. i think bank of america will survive the protests.

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